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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 22:53:00 -
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Whatever happened, kudos to ASCN for bringing the beast out to play... 
.. particularly with the current state of the servers..
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 22:57:00 -
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 Originally by: Low Blow
kudos for what ? they didnt even bring it out of the POS 
hmm.. didnt realise you could fire the doomsday device from inside a forcefield.. thats kind of silly.
nevertheless, it makes a change from the ususal..
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Dont be such a tard. Of course its going to sit at the POS, what possible benefit of there of exposing it in the field?
.. right, but its a bit silly that its doomsday device can be fired from within a forcefield in the firstplace... that simply makes it the equivalent of an additional huge sentry gun in a POS.
Theoretically it would never need to leave the forcefield at all if your alliance is a defensive one.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 23:21:00 -
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.. so can it fire the doomsday weapon from within a forcefield or not?
There have been conflicting answers so far on this detail...
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 23:30:00 -
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gee.. can you stop flaming eachother for a few moments..
can the titan fire its doomsday weapon from inside a forcefield?
The implications of the answer to that are quite substantial IMO 
Is the titan gonna be used as an additional sentry gun in a POS or does it have to be fielded with a fleet to activate its mega-weapon?
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 23:35:00 -
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Originally by: CYVOK
You can't. The ship was not inside a force field, it was in open space for about 3 hours waiting for the right moment.
yep I read that.. however, I wanted it re-confirmed, as initially BoB pilots claimed that the titan hadn't left the forcefield at all at any time.. I guess they were mistaken?
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.01 23:40:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/10/2006 23:46:10
Edited by: Nez Perces on 01/10/2006 23:41:21
Originally by: Kcel Chim
it doesnt matter really if it can fire inside a field or not. There are many more invulnerability options.
A) Fit a cloak
B) Sit in a really really super deep safe
C) Sit 1km outside of a Deathstar pos armed with small weapons and a cyno char ready in another system (and fit officer smartbombs)
D) Sit inside docking range of a station
All those options give you a close to 100% immunity.
k..
A) Fit a cloak - Can you fire the doomsday weapon with a cloak activated?
B) Sit in a really really deep safespot - Haven't these been defined as an exploit for a while now?
C) Sit 1k outside a deathstar... - K.. but that does make it vulnerable somewhat, I mean at least its outside the forcefield
D) Sit inside docking range of station - apparently you cant dock a titan in a station?
So I think the forcefield question is still crucial, can it or cant it?
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 00:02:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 00:03:08
Well I give up waiting for somebody to categorically state wether the doomsday weapon can be fired from within a forcefield or not.... 
so, I'll just reiterate what I said earlier...
Kudos to ASCN for bringing your 'precious' out to play...
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 00:10:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 00:10:19
Originally by: The Armin
Cyvok already said that he couldn't.
yes I saw that, but his post was preceded by two BoB pilots stating that the titan had never left the forcefield at all.... hence a re-confirmation would cancel out the BoB statements...
I guess its safe to say that Cyvok is right.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Mad Scientist101
He was the pilot! I am guessing he had the better information.
one would assume so... yes
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 01:25:00 -
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Originally by: Susan DePriest
Could the mods please close this thread, it's nothing more then a flamefest and trolling for flames.
..err no.. this is precisely what these forums need, a little bit of spice and excitement.. if you don't like it don't read it..
.. its just words.. nothing more nothing less.. nobody is going to die as a result of them..
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Tido Maliyu
It's the twisting of facts and assumptions by people that never came near that gets really, really, annoying... 
.. thats actually half the fun.... correcting the other guy and putting him in his place.. endless hours of entertainment.. ofc only if thats your sort of thing..
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 19:13:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
no.... not a titan, but the righteous fury of ASCN's own forum squad...
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i must say ascn's forum warriors are holding their own quite well...
Actually the only reason the "righteous fury" of ASCN's forum participants is holding up is because Cyvok keeps bailing them out....... whilst having committed the biggest blunder in this forum saga yet (saying that he may crash nodes, astutely followed by a categorical statement that he wouldn't), Cyvok is the one ASCN poster who is keeping ASCN's credibility from disintegrating.
ASCN doesn't have any forum warriors, just a sea of posting with no direction (sometimes they are hobbits, sometimes they are victims, sometimes they are arrogant, sometimes they are angry, sometimes they are stoic).... its just not consistent...
BoB on the other hand have a very clear message - arrogance, superiority and inevitability. And nearly all BoB posters stick to that message.
ASCN don't have a message.. or if they do its getting lost amongst all the other messages. If they had one message and stuck to that no matter what, the forums would be much more fun.
As it stands ASCN's forum strategy is non-existant and at the very worst embarassing.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kazim
Nez, you don't have to take these forums so seriously. In fact a lot of people from both sides shouldn't.
...who says I do?
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 19:59:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 20:03:02
Originally by: Kazim
Sorry I was not trying to smack you or anything. It's just the amount of posting you do and sometimes the attitude you have of speaking as the collective mind of all eve players, that's strikes me as you care very much.
But anyway, keep on posting people. And thanks to all involved parties for making these forums fun to read again.
... heh it would be highly presumptuous and delirious of me to pretend to be speaking for anybody but myself.. I take these forums as seriously as they need to be taken, which isnt too serious at all... although I admit the roleplaying aspect of posting does entertain me...
And I agree with you that no matter who posts and what, we should grateful that the forums got an injection of adrenaline in this last week....
but then again Molle posts were always gonna be show stealers
these forums wether we like it or not are a barometer for EVE's general well being. When its quiet it means the game is stagnant and thats no good.
BoB vs ASCN
First Titan Deployment.... and thats just in the last 4 days.. could you ask for anymore?
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.02 20:34:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 20:36:11
Originally by: Murakan
well tbh a grand total of 50 pages or so of 2 sides flaming each other doesn't exactly mean eve is up and bumping 
OFC it does.. it means people are caring what happens ingame = they will log on = they will tell their friends how exciting it all is = game is healthy = people in empire might consider joining in all the fun...
with nothing going on in these forums, people will stop logging on if it goes on for too long..
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.03 02:10:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
The fundamental problem you have is that your arrogance isnt backed up by any evidence of superiority. Quite the opposite. Until this rather glaring issue is resolved, your ego-massaging posts simply look empty and comical.
First let me make it clear that I am not on BoB's side or ASCN's side for that matter... I just like to throw in my 2isk once in a while...k...now thats out of the way:
.. here is something BoB have achieved or rather nobody has achieved against them.. to my knowledge at least.
I going out on a limb here because I do not know this for certain... but as far as I am aware BoB have never had a POS taken down or an outpost or a player conquerable station taken off them, since they finished killing FA.
I'm not going to go into why this has never happened.. but that alone is pretty impressive.
I don't think another alliance out there can actually say that.
If somebody can remember a BoB POS/outpost/conquerable station being taken off them... ill be happy to be corrected.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.03 17:25:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/10/2006 17:28:16
Originally by: Butter Dog
You can't justify it. You're little more than egomaniacs, and yet you have nothing substantial to back up your claim to be better than everyone else up.
.. sigh... Butter Dog about 10 posts back I suggested something that BoB had achieved that no other had.... you ofc ignored my post because it robs your argument of its main point, i.e the lack of evidence.
Nobody can yet remember destroying/capturing a single BoB POS/Conquerable station/Outpost since the fall of FA. There seems to be one report of a POS going into reinforced, but never destroyed.
That is a substantial achievement.
No other alliance can say this..... LV have had trouble with RA, D2 with Goons/TCF and ASCN had trouble with Iron/G a while back.
So where is your argument now?.. thats right, you don't have one.
You don't have a point anymore as I have presented a reason for BoB to feel superior and you don't even dislike BoB as you keep telling us.
Why oh why do you keep posting then?.. if you wanna keep posting at least do us the common curtesy of having a relevant point.
Cause, right now all you are doing is spamming.....
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.03 17:34:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/10/2006 17:34:28
Originally by: Butter Dog
In fact, all it provides evidence for is that a capable PvP entity has yet to lay seige to one of their systems. This is true, but means nothing in itself.
How you can say that with a straight face is beyond me...
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.03 17:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 03/10/2006 17:43:44
Originally by: Butter Dog
Unfortunately, once again, you have failed to provide any evidence of being 'better' than any other top-tier PvP alliances.
being 'better' than other people is subjective butter dog..
I have been in leadership positions in two alliances and I can categorically tell you that BoB are an important factor in any military considerations...
When looking to identify a target for your alliance, there is always somebody who provides an easier target than BoB.
Wether you like it or not BoB are a formidable force and have long memories..... thats why alliances think twice before taking BoB on, thats why there has yet to be a concerted offence on their holdings.
If you don't understand that, then you are simply here to troll... which is fine, but don't expect any credibility.
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Nez Perces
Amarr
Black Spot.
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Posted - 2006.10.03 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
This is exactly the point I have been trying to make. Kind of difficult to claim to be the best, then, isnt it?
..equally difficult is to claim that somebody isnt the best .. wouldn't you say.. therefore you are wasting your time.
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